Name:   MartiniMan - Subject:   Ugh..... Date:   10/24/2020 5:38:39 AM

Think Goofy....think....for once.....please.  I never said I agreed with the poll.  But I do know that leftists seem to live and die by the polls.  I was merely pointing out that they may be AWOL because they saw this poll and may have believed it.

I agree with Ralph Reed that polls are no longer to be trusted because they are used not to gauge public sentiment, but to influence it.  It happens every year.  Polls show one candidate crushing another but they all magically "tighten" as election day gets near as if somthing miraculous happens in the last few weeks to cause millions of people to completely change their minds about who they are going to vote for.  And they claim it's because voters are "paying attention" or whatever nonsense they come up with.  The reality is that as the election draws near they gradually reduce the manipulations of the poll to promote their desired outcome and start to get closer to the truth in order to maintain a shred of credibility.  Have you ever wondered why campaigns do their own polls?  It's because public polls are garbage and they know it. 

And why are public polls garbage?  Think about it.  Who is paying the polling outfit?  Primarily the Govt Media complex, that's who (aBS, cBS, nBS, pmsnBS, WaPo, NYT, etc.), so they can breathlessly report the results and "make news".  Except they have all picked sides and they want poll results that fit their world view so they can influence the public.  They could care less about informing us....they have their ideology to follow.  So the public pollsters, being the whores that they are, manipulate the polls to get the desired outcome their clients want so they can lie to the American public about what they supposedly think. No wonder after every poll comes out we are shaking our heads and wondering who the heck they talked to.

And how do they manipulate?  Lots of ways but by far the most common is their sample of voters (the so-called turnout models).  They almost always oversample Democrats, undersample Republicans and pick left leaning Independents.  They also focus on subsets of Republicans to give them their desired outcome.  For example, they know Trump doesn't do as well with suburban, college educated women so the Republicans they poll are weighted toward this demographic to give them the results their clients are expecting.  Also note that most polls early in the cycle rely on registered voters but as the election draws near you see more polls using likely voters because they are more accurate and hence, the lie that the race is "tightening".  Pure bovine excrement. It isn't tightening....they are just getting closer to telling the truth so their clients will keep hiring them.

And also notice another factor...when they don't poll.  Perfect example, we used to see all these polls about who won the debates.  And I'm not talking about flash polls where people call in and press 1 if candidate A won and 2 if candidate B won.  I am talking real polls of likely voters that watched the debates.  No poll results being reported, eh?  Why is that?  I suspect it is because they didn't like the results so they keep it under wraps.  Of course they may have expected it not to go well for their preferred candidate so they didn't even bother commissioning a poll.  Either way, their goal is not to report but to manipulate.....obvious to any person with half a brain.

Think Goofy.....think........