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Name:   Talullahhound The author of this post is registered as a member - Email Member
Subject:   Hodja
Date:   2/22/2011 8:25:05 AM

Of course,the government could change in the manner of other countries. Of course it could.

I just don't think the ability to be fired at whim is what makes for an effective government. And don't forget, government employees can be fired. And I've not seen an example, at least in Washington, where people were promoted based on length of service. Yes, I'm sure it happens, but I'm not sure how frequently. What I have seen is ineffective people being marginalized. Do I agree with that approach? No.

Based on my experience, the biggest change I would make it to replace ineffective managers. I've worked for far too many senior managers who were afraid to make a decision, afraid to confront the bureaucracy. And yes, fear to confront employees.
The government does not have an effective career track for managers -- instead, usually the best Action Officer gets promoted into management, without regard for their ability to deal, direct and motivate people. In my next to last job before I retired, I replaced a man who had been in the same job for 17 years... and his Deputy had been in the same job for 19 years. I was brought in to breathe new life and to make the office effective. It was surprisingly easy, the people were so hungry for leadership. (and I did clear out 5-6 people who had withered on the job. Didn't like the changes and they retired)
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Budget Battle - water_watcher - 2/20/2011 9:21:17 AM
     Budget Battle - Talullahhound - 2/20/2011 1:31:07 PM
          Budget Battle - water_watcher - 2/20/2011 3:40:49 PM
               that is Democracy - Talullahhound - 2/20/2011 7:05:40 PM
                    that is Democracy - Barneget - 2/20/2011 7:32:06 PM
                    that is Democracy - water_watcher - 2/20/2011 9:44:38 PM
                    Hound - water_watcher - 2/20/2011 9:46:45 PM
                         Hound - Talullahhound - 2/20/2011 11:05:23 PM
                              Hound - water_watcher - 2/21/2011 5:47:04 AM
                              BTW Hound - water_watcher - 2/21/2011 5:48:31 AM
                                   BTW Hound - Talullahhound - 2/21/2011 7:49:50 AM
                                        BTW Hound - water_watcher - 2/21/2011 10:57:41 AM
                                             BTW Hound - Talullahhound - 2/21/2011 1:25:19 PM
                                                  BTW Hound - Barneget - 2/21/2011 7:37:48 PM
                                                       BTW Hound - Talullahhound - 2/21/2011 8:13:55 PM
                                                            BTW Hound - Barneget - 2/21/2011 9:08:04 PM
                                                                 BTW Hound - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 8:09:47 AM
                                                            we are seeing leadership - water_watcher - 2/21/2011 9:36:45 PM
                                                            BTW Hound - MrHodja - 2/21/2011 9:50:30 PM
                                                                 Hodja - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 8:25:05 AM
                                                  BTW Hound - water_watcher - 2/21/2011 9:25:47 PM
                                                       BTW Hound - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 8:43:14 AM
                                                            You just don't get it - water_watcher - 2/22/2011 10:33:12 AM
                                                                 You just don't get it - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 1:53:48 PM
                                                                      You just don't get it - water_watcher - 2/22/2011 3:38:35 PM
                                                                           You just don't get it - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 4:53:26 PM
                                                                                Finally - water_watcher - 2/22/2011 5:16:13 PM
                                                                                     Finally - Talullahhound - 2/22/2011 5:32:30 PM



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