Mr H frankly I have to take a somewhat skeptical view when my posts are condemned as being an "Agree with me all or none" attitude rather than reasoned discourse while you never seem to make similar comments about the right wing nuts in general on this forum or MM in particular. Read MM's first post on this string and then look me in the eye and tell me those are the words of a man who wants a reasonable dialogue rather than an "agree with me all or none" idiot!! If you think those are the words of a reasonable man who wants to encourage reason in others then you may be too far gone for any hope.