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Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   October surprise...jobless data manipulation
Date:   10/5/2012 9:10:53 AM

What a shocker, a 0.3% drop in one month......not! I almost died laughing the AP story because they reported everything but the number of people that left the job market and labor participation rate in September in order to get the number down. So they only added 114,000 jobs which is 136,000 below the increase in the population of job seekers and unemployment goes down........hmmmmm.....and in a month where new jobless claims were rising almost every week. Pravda and the Kremlin could not do a better job with propaganda. But it won't work because Americans are going to look around them and see their family and friends unemployed and wonder who is getting all these jobs. Answer, they aren't...they are just giving up by the hundreds of thousands every month. Gee, for a guy who has this in the bag this sure seems like a Hail Mary pass to me.........



Name:   GoneFishin - Email Member
Subject:   October surprise...jobless data manipulation
Date:   10/5/2012 11:41:06 AM

Any positive news is either a conspiracy or manipulated. You want to be taken serious but you just can't bring yourself to admit the October surprise is good for the nation. "Gee, for a guy who has this in the bag this sure seems like a Hail Mary pass to me………" It worked for Doug Flutie and Boston College in 1984 and more recently the one against Green Bay with the bad call….why not a Hail Mary for the Messiah??? Good things come in threes…….



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   No conspiracy at all
Date:   10/5/2012 12:12:51 PM

The numbers are a fraud and to call them good news is pretty sad. If the labor participation rate were just equal to what it was when Obama took office (not more as it should be in a growing economy), the U2 number would be 11%. That is not opinion GF, that is hard, cold rational facts and I invite you to crunch the numbers yourself. The numbers are abysmal and will continue as long as TOTUS is POTUS. Only a deluded fool, a left wing nut or a corrupt politician would call this a victory. Oh, and we all know that our population has not grown in the last 3 1/2 years, right? No young adults have entered the work force in the last three years, right? The millions that have simply vanished from the labor participation numbers aren't real people living in abject misery after having lost their jobs and given up hope of ever finding them, right? Nope, these real people who are likely the poorest of the poor are just useful tools to be discarded by Oblamer in his effort to get reelected. That is why I hold the left in such low regard. They could give a crap about what happens to real people as long as they stay in power. Will it work? Maybe. Is it despicable? Of course. Will the govt media continue as the sycophants they are? WIthout a doubt.



Name:   MartiniMan - Email Member
Subject:   And by the way
Date:   10/5/2012 2:11:44 PM

the numbers were also inflated by over half a million temporary, part time jobs taken by people that could not find a full-time job. Yep, in the world of left wing nuts that is actually good news. The U6 number, better known as the real unemployment rate, stayed unchanged at 14.7%. And even if the labor participation rate today equalled the rate at the start of the year we would have gone up from 8.3% to 8.4%. Again, cold, hard facts that you are free to calculate yourself. And TOTUS is crying VICTORY! and the govt media is being their usual sycophants. And the left wing nuts that don't care about real people but just worry about reelecting their Messiah are actually crowing about these numbers.........so very sad.



Name:   h_hob - Email Member
Subject:   [Message deleted by author]
Date:   10/5/2012 3:03:37 PM (updated 10/5/2012 5:13:09 PM)




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Date:   10/5/2012 5:14:57 PM (updated 10/5/2012 6:26:57 PM)




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Date:   10/5/2012 5:16:17 PM (updated 10/6/2012 1:39:29 PM)








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